95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?



  • @pml2020 said in 95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?:

    Change is needed in the way assets are structured and managed. We need to separate the sheep from the goats. Asset issuers need to be more proactive and savvy enough to manage their asset competently and avoid their asset value crashing.

    We can avoid asset value crashing by not allowing the asset to be bought/sold on the secondary market. Then the price is totally on the asset issuer. If it drops, he's a scammer or a bad manager.


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    @Hyzi0 Sorry, that wasn't intended for you, it was intended for whoever made the assertion I intended to quote - it had been a LONG day. My Apologies.


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    @qibucks hold on why so serious lolz are you 51 you look like 30 35 is that your old pic actully i too loose many on cloudmining and gambling its not bad its part of game its experience we gain but whole thing is end profit we have i gamble on site if i loose more then i gain i leave it permanently and try another where i can recover those losses if i am loosing everywhere i gave up thats better then loosing more where i didnt get fit ,you say you invested in reaper can you plz tell what you study about reaper asset before investing or you blindly someone asking and you giving burst and then why i got scamed its 99% risk ratio means its sure you will loose in reaper like investment and everyone should learn from mistakes and never reapeat them or you loose everytime i am sorry if you got hurt from any word but its bitter truth you need to change if its not working i will say exactly to my mother if she is in place of you i am just placing the fact like i think maybe i am wrong may be i am right i have to say what i think is good.
    i am not much good in english but you can understand what i want to say lolz



  • @dvndr007 not good english but good enough english to flirt a bit 😛 LOL



  • @rds Simple steps / traits that will keep the value of any asset / new assets stable / steadily increasing on Burst AE.
    (Assets 101)

    1. First the asset issuer need to be of sound character and display transparency (and be verified) and stay out of confusion / rifts on the both forums to be respected by your potential investors. Must have a good business idea / plan with a sound business model / structure because you will need the majority of your initial investors to really believe in you and support you and your business into the long term future. Try to be creative and think outside the box instead of just copying other assets, most assets are already mining, staking, trading and gambling and non of them even created a real use case for Burst coins. You should have a long term goal / plan for the asset / business that is understood by all, be absolutely clear about it and inform investors that it will be a team effort to achieve those goals and If they are looking to get rich quick they should choose a different asset and always keep your investors updated with all progress and accomplishments / reports. Do not ever make any promises or statements that you may not be able to fulfill. Trust, confidence and investor involvement will produce some passionate long term investors that share your dream for the asset / business. Focus on always keeping your Initial investors who believed in you and your asset / business happy, updated and always informed will be an essential part of the asset success because they will hold the value of the asset by not selling lower than they bought.

    2. You should not release more than 50% of your business / assets equity to the public (If the asset / business is valuable to the owner he will never willingly give up more than 50% equity of his business). If an asset issuer rather more liquid than equity of his own asset / business that should be a red flag that it may not be profitable long term or Is not really considered a real business by the owner himself. In the real world no real business/company will sell out more than 50% of their company. Never over value your asset at the launch. If your assets are expensive and you fail to deliver the amount of dividends expected for the amount of investment required, then investors may be more inclined to dump assets. Especially if your asset is based on mining etc. Most assets can't continue to increase their income without spending more and more on new equipment or staking more or taking bigger and bigger risks trading / gambling etc. Start assets sales at a low price and If it is a good business model and structure then the value should increase naturally when the investors realize the value of the asset themselves. In the crypto market success (bull run) most Burst assets dividends / pay-outs and assets value will be / are decreasing because of the structure / business model of the assets (They just can't / won't do anything about it, but sit back and watch, they already have our money though).

    3. Expect the unexpected and always be proactive and make moves for the mutual benefit of the entire asset / holders and not just yourself, using the guidance of your initial business plan and your investors. If an asset never had a solid structure or business model, and did not take future market possibilities into account while making their business plan then they will not have any idea what to do when/if the market does an unpredictable move. We are already noticing some assets like fish out of water. (If you fail to plan, then you plan to fail)

    4. Always work on improving your asset / dividend pay-outs by adding new revenue streams to the business and always continue to advertise the business / asset. Find innovative ways to continually attract new investors as long as the business / asset is in operation. This will continue to drive the value of the asset up.

    5. Always use (allocate) portions of business profits to maintain a buy wall at the initial asset price. This will guarantee that the asset value will most likely never be less than when the initial investors purchased assets and always provide liquidity. ( This will be difficult to do If you sold more than 50% of your assets and if your initial asset price was expensive)

    The value of an asset with a poor business structure / model and no business plan will collapse on its own eventually.
    Yes If the price of Burst goes to $1 in the morning their maybe some investors that don't care and dump their assets to cash out immediately regardless of which assets they hold, but If the business / asset has any real value to the majority of investors and is lucrative with much more growth potential then the majority of investors will rather hold and continue to collect passive income long term and If the asset was / is successful their should be many buyers already lined up with buy orders happy to grab up assets immediately.

    Actions always speak louder than words so I will be putting myself to the test by creating a different model / structure asset soon. I had a vision that I have to do this. I will prove it can be done. If an asset can be issued in all the turmoil and lack of investor confidence and succeed then it will definitely be around a very long time, probably make it to the top of the AE rich list eventually as well. It is not completely out of the issuer's control, its not impossible to maintain an asset value as you may think. I will try to make a good example soon so their shouldn't be so many excuses, selfishness and carelessness in the future. The standards of assets / business management on the Burst AE needs to be raised. It just takes a little common sense and determination. I dropped out of an associate degree in business in the first year so I have not much business education but will probably still do better than most assets using common sense. I was quietly observing what are missing from assets, what is missing from Burst AE, the different asset structures, the failed assets and everything what not to do. I am happy I didn't rush to launch, I will be happy to contribute something of real value to the entire Burst community by sharing my project with you all soon. Imagine Burst #1 asset on the AE rich list is a man gambling in an online casino which is also another burst asset. Clearly assets are currently under achieving and Burst AE badly needs an intervention... SMH I am very motivated to launch soon, continue to work hard and dominate the AE, and ultimately set a new standard for assets on the AE.



  • @pml2020 well we shall see what you will offer 🙂 maybe even risk a bit of BURST if it sounds right 😛



  • @pml2020 In my eyes you fail to understand some basics mate. Together with some of the investors 🙂 . Im not saying we don't need some good assets and i agree that most of them at this time are getting incomes only by mining.
    But , you did say that they fail to hold the value ... Well some of them may be, but in most of the cases it just shows you
    1: fail to understand or
    2: you don't want to understand or
    3: you are unable to understand that your wrong!
    First of all you look at their price at burst... Well mate to just be able to hold it in 2 weeks you would need to raise the worth of your business whatever your doing by 250% + extra for some profit...
    Now you really think that you would be able to come up with something to do that?
    If your answer is yes then another question... Why haven't you got more money yet than Bill Gates ???

    Do you know that your talking about crypto coins right? Do you understand what they are? Because i think you don't at all...
    Have you ever heard of something called inflation and deflation? Do you understand what are they and why im i asking it?
    Do you understand BURST coin by nature is deflationary ?
    A quick example for you and your understanding of business :
    prices wont be real here only made up by me but its just an example for you to understand why are you talking bullshit because i really have enough of it!
    So the example:
    lets say i made an asset two weeks ago . I sold 1000000 shares piece by 100 burst to buy gold for it . As i cant buy for burst i exchange for usd and buy gold lets say on 1000 usd per ounce of gold. In the two weeks time the price of gold went from 1000 per ounce to 2000 and i sold it! Then reinvested in to something and paid dividends while burst went from 0.00000200btc to 0.00000500btc
    But as burst went up the prices of my shares went from 100 to 50 burst/piece.
    Of course in your eyes it is failure but you have a bit limited understanding of the situation...
    Because in this case the business went great and made a 100% growth in just 2 weeks... But you see only: oh i could just hold burst and keep crying about your loss... Well yes you could but without that asset and similar ones your burst wouldn't grow in price...

    And please understand 1 freaking important thing about burst:
    it is not fiat!!!!
    if you spend fiat today because you need to eat to survive after 10 years you look back and say what a cheap food that was...
    But if you spend burst today to buy food in 10 years you look back and say well if i did not need to buy that bread i could buy a hotel today...

    Sorry for my English and that it is so long but im getting angry and English is not my native language.


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    @pml2020 Thats all what we need i am just waiting for you asset what idea you bring out if you remain on your words you are going too high above gravitation no one can pull you back bravo be optimist always.
    and i request big guys of this forum kindly checkout his whole comment is what we need right now to change in asset exchange its real serious matter what we investors need to change in burst crypto is on fire and changing on very fast rate we need to be like that to be in race.



  • Well asset investments is nothing like investing in stocks. There is no regulation, no oversight, no nothing. This is why I will not toss my burst into that black hole.



  • @dvndr007 no problem, thanks for replying and I promise to understand your humor better in future.. :..Reaper was shitty and it's my fault for not doing due diligence lol.. Thanks for the compliment and that pic was taking a few days ago. I don't drink or smoke and only wear make up when I go out and I don't photoshop my pics or wear skin whitener either lol..That's just plain old me hehe..Maybe the clean sea air I am in helps too, I walk by the sea every day,.. and swim now in the summer.. I am blessed now at least I am in a warm and sunny country..I got fed up of the cold 50 years lol..



  • @ScreamIndevnull Investing in assets is pretty close to invest in stocks but for understand the differences you have to understand crypto... Sure, there is no entity that regulates the market and the assets usually gives much more risk than a regulated company would give, but usually they also give better returns...

    Issuers need to prepare themselfs and their assets much better offering protection layers to protect the investors... This is only possible by arranging volume on their assets in order to protect investors from big dumps and fix the price in a specific coin being it Burst, USD, EUR, you name it...

    The AE is not a blackhole, and for understanding this you need to understand that you pay your money for the shares and that money goes to the previous owner of the shares so your real holdings in shares are not Burst... Burst has less than 2 billion coins and if everyone counts their investments in the AE as Burst, by now Burst would have much more than 2 billion coins for sure... If that was the case we would be facing a double spending issue, what is not the case!

    The AE is one great feature of Burstcoin and is what turns Burstcoin into an economy... Most of the coins out there only allow transfers of value, the AE offers the opportunity for anyone to open a company in this economy! That is one major advancement for crypto... I have a plan for help with this scam issues in the AE but there is not really a way of preventing it from happen because anyone can open one asset by just pay 1000 Burst wich now equates to around 10€... Hell, opening a company in my country is cheap but not that cheap LOL



  • @potkas said in 95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?:

    @pml2020 In my eyes you fail to understand some basics mate. Together with some of the investors 🙂 . Im not saying we don't need some good assets and i agree that most of them at this time are getting incomes only by mining.
    But , you did say that they fail to hold the value ... Well some of them may be, but in most of the cases it just shows you
    1: fail to understand or
    2: you don't want to understand or
    3: you are unable to understand that your wrong!
    First of all you look at their price at burst... Well mate to just be able to hold it in 2 weeks you would need to raise the worth of your business whatever your doing by 250% + extra for some profit...
    Now you really think that you would be able to come up with something to do that?
    If your answer is yes then another question... Why haven't you got more money yet than Bill Gates ???

    Do you know that your talking about crypto coins right? Do you understand what they are? Because i think you don't at all...
    Have you ever heard of something called inflation and deflation? Do you understand what are they and why im i asking it?
    Do you understand BURST coin by nature is deflationary ?
    A quick example for you and your understanding of business :
    prices wont be real here only made up by me but its just an example for you to understand why are you talking bullshit because i really have enough of it!
    So the example:
    lets say i made an asset two weeks ago . I sold 1000000 shares piece by 100 burst to buy gold for it . As i cant buy for burst i exchange for usd and buy gold lets say on 1000 usd per ounce of gold. In the two weeks time the price of gold went from 1000 per ounce to 2000 and i sold it! Then reinvested in to something and paid dividends while burst went from 0.00000200btc to 0.00000500btc
    But as burst went up the prices of my shares went from 100 to 50 burst/piece.
    Of course in your eyes it is failure but you have a bit limited understanding of the situation...
    Because in this case the business went great and made a 100% growth in just 2 weeks... But you see only: oh i could just hold burst and keep crying about your loss... Well yes you could but without that asset and similar ones your burst wouldn't grow in price...

    And please understand 1 freaking important thing about burst:
    it is not fiat!!!!
    if you spend fiat today because you need to eat to survive after 10 years you look back and say what a cheap food that was...
    But if you spend burst today to buy food in 10 years you look back and say well if i did not need to buy that bread i could buy a hotel today...

    Sorry for my English and that it is so long but im getting angry and English is not my native language.

    @potkas What I mentioned fell in your garden. From your comments you giving off the impression of a failing, clueless asset owner or a very naive investor. I never mentioned anything about fiat or the past or the future of Burst price or inflation other than people may want to cash out if Burst reaches $1 and don't care about that. You should try to make sense to any investors that may be reading. If an investor spent 100 Burst per asset and the asset is now worth / valued at 6 burst today that means he lost 94 burst from his initial investment full stop. A lost of Burst is a lost of Burst... Let me break it down for you a little so you can understand the point I was making. You can understand elementary maths right? If an Investor bought 1000 assets at 100 burst per asset = 100,000 Burst and now each asset is valued at 6 Burst per asset, the Investor only have a value of 6000 Burst now and lost 94,000 Burst right? So If he just wants to sell his assets and store his Burst in his Burst wallet he will have (can only get) 6000 Burst or less from an Initial investment of 100,000 Burst, am I wrong? Even though the investor got dividends for the last 10 years or the price of burst was 0.00000001 btc and now it is 10,000 btc per Burst or it will be 1000000 btc / Burst next 5 years or the US dollar is devalued or increase in value, please tell me what the hell that has to do with an investor loosing most of his initial Burst investment? I guess you have an asset that has lost some value and lost Investors some of their initial investment and you are looking for an excuse for why their isn't enough interest in your asset and a lack of liquidity (buy orders) equating to a lower bid price and a lower asset value? So you trying to tell me the reason most Burst assets lost value and some of their investors lost thousands of Burst is because of inflation and there was just nothing the issuer could have done or could do about it and I just don't understand the bigger picture right? The value of an asset is calculated by multiplying the amount of assets a person holds by the highest bid price / offer. If their is a lack of interest in an asset then people will bid very low or not place any bids at all, hence the value of the asset being low. I don't have to care about any of what you said, tell that to all the investors who lost thousands of burst by just holding assets, tell them it was because of inflation or fiat and they clearly just don't understand or choose not to understand. I really hope you don't think about issuing any assets, I feel sorry for your investors If you already did. If an asset dividend pay-outs are not very impressive and another lucrative opportunity presents itself to the investors they would be inclined to liquidate the assets and move on and that will drive the value of the asset down. When other investors of that said under achieving asset check into their account / assets and notice their value of Burst has gone down they themselves are not pleased and may want to at least salvage their remaining Burst and are also inclined to sell as well since the dividends are already not impressive and that starts a downward ripple effect and their are no new investors coming in / less liquid / no new buy orders and no asset advertising campaigns or any initiatives by the asset issuer or nothing much done to restore the value but say and do exactly what you are doing about it. If their is no demand / interest for an asset and the asset issuer don't know what to do to create more demand or how to do it then they should humble themselves and try to learn and attempt to boost their dividends or advertising or something, don't try to justify incompetence. You can talk all you want about inflation and price rise of Burst, but you wont be making much sense to investors who lost thousands of Burst. If you choose to be ignorant about it and not learn that is your choice. Assets that choose to sit back and hope for a flood of new investors into their assets or the price of burst to go back down will eventually go to zero liquidity (ridiculous or no buy orders) and have a slow death.



  • @pml2020 I agree that if someone simply sits back and hope for new investors is basicly moving backwards. If ppl only say that they need to sell new shares to grow but don't have something new to boost divs then no one will bother buying up especialy when Burst is high. The problem brought here doesn't solve liquidity as I know a few asset issuers that bought some mining hardware out of their own pocket but still strugle to hold reasonable price. It's great and very generous move but it doesn't solve the problem.
    To understand situation that is currently happening on AE you need to look at what's happening in Burst. Everyone knows that this price is caused by a pump and it will drop soon. So ppl want to sell as much burst as possible and buyback everything once price falls back down. I believe that by the end of this week we will be ~350sats and a lot of assets will grow back in price. As @potkas mentioned it's not possible for asset issuer to grow his asset value as quickly as smb can pump Burst's price(at least before we are ~1kkk usd Market Cap) so this will keep happening if there will be another pumps.
    Another thing that I think you misunderstood is your "elementary math". You lose nothing untill you sell it. If you invested in asset 100 000 burst and it's value dropped to 10 000 due to burst price rise then you still get your divs and it has the same potential to grow when you invested. You invest in assets to receive dividends not for share price to skyrocket. Those type of investments are long terms like everything that's legit. If you want great asset 3%/day then invest in reaper or in AG assets. If you invest for short gain, then you should take into consideration that asset price might drop(like in any asset ever created) and you might loose money.
    Lastly, you are totally wrong about potkas asset. It's simple, unique and extremly safe one that didn't loose much value as almost from the beginning it was trading above issued price.
    So please instead of giving shit to people that work for us try to use other people stupidity and buy cheap shares. Use it or be used as there never will be enough liquidity for everyone 🙂



  • @pml2020 lets say it like this... you don't even know whats the difference between inflation and deflation.. And if this is true its hard to explain to you anything... Your answer clearly stated you don't know the difference between the two...
    Now why did i mentioned fiat.(by the way you haven't got a clue whats that either so here is the link http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fiatmoney.asp please educate yourself to understand.)
    Because fiat was made inflationary in nature so people do not want to hold much of it and they want to invest to try and gain value.
    Now here is the difference with deflationary money ! If you hold em you get good returns and you don't have to invest to get it. And at the moment you have sold your burst and acquired some assets your investment was not in burst capiche??? If the investor left it in burst he would just hardly be able to do some business at the moment...
    And if you think you can do something better than wee do, why are you not a millionaire yet? You said you will show us how to do business and do your own asset. So mate good luck but be sure i will link this thread there for people to be able to know who do they invest with 🙂

    And criticizing my asset without even taking the time to look at it shows your intelligence...
    My asset was done in a way it will newer lose all of its worth in burst! If you read back you will even understand i have been prepared for this since the start of my asset. Of course you can only understand if your clever enough to do so...
    Of course in burst it lost some value but just as i sad to be proof against that you have to stop investing at all.
    My incompetence... ok lets say your right, but i at least know what is inflation and you don't XD... sorry mate im laughing at you but you just made my day! Thanks! I really had a good laugh at your comments 😉

    Translate for yourself mate it will help you in the life 😉 its an old Hungarian saying:
    Ha hallgattál volna, bölcs maradtál volna.
    similar but not the same in English:
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.



  • @potkas Ok no hard feelings, continue to do your best and I will do my best.



  • @pml2020 said in 95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?:

    Apparently It was what I posted about Burst Casino and the bankruptcy and that Adam being a share holder and betting against the same casino for his asset is corruption / conflict of interest. That got me permanently banned at Burst Nation.

    I got a permanent ban over at Burst Nation for posting this. Apparently I insulted, degraded or posted hateful comments about Burst Nation or one of its staff members by posting my views on some stuff above.

    Error Message
    Your user account has been banned: Breaking the rules Permanant ban rule #5
    5 ) Do not insult, degrade or post hateful posts about BURST Nation or its staff on any other sites you use, if you are found doing so, you will be banned instantly.
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    I will still always continue to send new people over their and over here to learn and mingle, through my YouTube channel and my mobile application. I am grateful for what I have learnt at both forums. I will continue to learn and mingle here though. I will not express any more views or have any input on anything Burst or Assets related. If I also insulted anyone here by my recent posts I apologize.



  • @pml2020 said in 95% Assets Seems Scams or Handled with Selfishness and Unmaturity is their Any Drastic Change required in Asset Exchange?:

    If I also insulted anyone here by my recent posts I apologize.

    You will not get banned over here for expressing your opinions, the worst thing that can happen is a downvote.


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    @pml2020 No insult seen over here .....



  • Thank you, I appreciate this forum's freedom of expression. However, I realize I am very competitive and straight forward and many people are offended very easily by that. I will try my best to just continue to invite new people, welcome new comers, help with anything if I can and mind my own business.



  • @haitch hello, can you contact me please?