@haitch

Hi,

i am on solo mining and i have updated to the newest Wallet BRS 2.2.1.

I got this error on solominig with CreepMiner 1.8.2

On first tests with the newest PoC2 converter engraver the new PoC2 file was working without error message. It was only a small plotfile so now i am creating bigger ones and testing again.

In think i have a couple for issues: bad PoC2 files, RAM and forwarding issue on CreepMiner

During using the forwarding feature of CreepMiner it seems that the RAM and swapfile is fully filled then the Miner crashes.

I am hoping with the new plotter (engraver) the different deadline error is gone and i am hoping that CreepMiner can handle the RAM during forwarding in the future without crashing.

When everyhing runs fine i write an how to for all other Linux users

@tinycoins

Thank you for your help. I just spend 10 days of PoC2 creating but i will test the new Plotter and tell the results in this Post for all the other people in this forum.

I am just testing my new POC 2 files with CreepMiner. On Linux.

Everytime I got this issue with my PoC2 file: "The pool calculated a different deadline for your nonce than your miner has!"

It's a bit confusing cause PoC1 files are working fine without any issue on CreepMiner.

I wrote on github to the developer of CreepMiner (https://github.com/Creepsky/creepMiner/issues/417) but perhaps someone here has a solution or the same issue.

I created the PoC2 files with "cg_obup-PoC2" Plotter (the only Plotter for Linux)

Turbo Plotter can be used for Linux to, but i need more possibilities so set the amount of nonces that has to be plottet and in the linux version of turb plotter i can only set the startnonce and the RAM and nothing else.

Perhaps cg_obup-PoC2 Plotter is creating bad POC2 files ?

Just have a look on my github link, there is everything explained, i don't want to type everything again :).

Are there some Linux guys out there who can tell me how they created PoC2 files (which program) and how its working for them ?

@luxe

ok you know what i am talking about.

The APP is not for me. I do my math on my own and its working fine for me. My own math is simple and I don't need any burst APP.

My idea is that the APP should make burst more attractiv for professional sellers and webshops.

I think for non tech and non tax addicted "normal" people it should be simple as hell in best case a one click solution.

The goal is to have small simple APP for Burst.

And i would pay some burst and perhaps the community can give a lot more to the developer for this app.

@leslieallen

Hi,

i think nobody knows what am thinking of. I don't know the rules for the us but does somebody know what cointracking.info is ? Then have a look on cointracking.info.

So my text was a bit long some examples for you what i think of:

1. If you are Mining then you have income and to pay tax and set the cost of Hardware as running cost

2. If you were selling something with your onlineshop and you have income and to pay tax.

3. if you are making some tradings and get some winning you have income and have to pay the tax

4. if you are selling something in privat you probably don't have to pay tax but you have to do the math

5. If you are selling as an progessional online shop you have income and pay the tax.

So on every case you have to do the math to get the right tax paying.

And one more Case:

If you have your business only with burst without changing to FIAT you event then have to declare you earnings.

Paying tax is no stupidity it's for the relaxed people you don't want to be living in anxious from the tax office

I try to say it most simple as i can: I want an Solo App only for Burstcoin that automatically does the Burst Calculation what you can do with cointracking.info.

My Vision is you need only to set your BURST Adress to this APP and the APP is calculating your income and outcome in your FIAT for everytime.

Don't know the US rules but income is income and when you are getting paid in burst or any other cryptcurrency you have to make the math.

F.e. I am selling 100 books each 100 BURST. Then i have an income of 100 x 100 = 10000 BURST and then you would have to pay tax for that.

Of course you can say whatever catch me if you can and go all in don't pay any tax and then the suprise when someone wants to know some data for income.

Hi,

I think Burst is one of the best projects but its unknown by normal business people now.

I don't know if Burst can win a big fish (f.e. like amazon) to use burstcoin as payment but I think it can be done more attractive for smaller business people who are a bit tech addicted.

I am using cryptos for some time now and one of the most annoying things is to to do math for the tax. For each transaction you have to do a lot of math. First you have to get price of Burstcoin for the income date then if you sell or buy something with your burstcoin you have to get the price of Burstcoin of the outgoing Burstcoin at that date. Then you have to do the math for the win.

For example, for a little cigarette shop or whatever:
"Someone buys 1 package of cigarettes in your shop for 1000 BURST:

Then you have to do the math as the shop owner

Income 1000 BURT 01.06.2018 = 10 USD (f.e.)
Outcome 1000 BURST 15.06.2018 = 15 USD (f.e.)

You got an income of 10 USD for the 1 package of cigarettes. Then you sell the 1000 BURST on Poloniex or you are paying something direct with burst on 15.06. On that day 1000 burst is 15 USD. Therefore you won 5 USD (15-10) because the value of burst goes high.

On a business you've then to make following writings to your book:

1. 10 Doller for the 1000 BURST income on 01.06.2018
2. 5 Doller for the winning of 5 Doller of higher price for burstcoin on 15.06.2018
3. If you buy something (on 15.06) for your company you could write the 15 USD to running costs of your business.
4. And if you want to you write the transactions fees for the transaction (on 15.06) to your running costs of your business too.

This is one Transaction and now think of what you have to do 1000 transactions as a professional.

For those there is a solution on cointracking.info. That makes exactly the math you need. And this is done for nearly all cryptos. You can use FIFO method or others and you can see the profit and income.

For cryptoaddicted people cointracking is realy best and easy to use esspecially for cryptotrades its realy brilliant.

But for the normal people out there with their job and their family and lack of time it's not. I think they will never want to such complicated thing.

For a normal non tech and non crypto addicted guy it has to be very simple. In best case an All in One solution Sofware / Wallet in that way:

1. Downloading software / Wallet
2. Activating BURST Account
3. Getting payments on BURST Account
   (this can be actually done bute my idea is the step 4.)
4. Software / Wallet can automatically tell the Income, the outcome and the winnings of value rising of BURST (FIFO = First in First out).

It should more simple as using cointracking.info cause its only for burst.

The Wallet / Software should display the Income in USD at the specific incoming date. The value of BURST at the specific outgoing date. And should do the math for trade winnings with FIFO method.

If i would have a small cigarette shop. And selling 1000 Packages in one year actually i would have 4000 writings in my book. And if you did 1 error on those 4000 writings the whole math is wrong when you did the error on the first one. And it's nearly impossible to find the error on that 4000. In that case for me as a small non tech and non crypto addicted shop owner it would be to complicate to do the math and i would not going to accept burst as payment option.

So in the explorer the value of Burst is shown is USD or EUR but its always the actual one of that day you are looking at.

For mass adoption it has to be simple as hell and in best case without any costs to accept burstcoin as payment.

And in best case does the Wallet or a specific software do the math for the shop owner automatic and free.

Especially for small shops it would be a good benefit. No other Crypto has actually the math build in a software.
This feature would be for small shop owner more attractiv than anything else. They don't care about electricity or anything else what we are thinking in our crypto bubble.

A small shop owner want easy get the money and easy do the math (Thats only my Opinion) and then they are thinking of all the cool features of Burstcoin and PoC.

I am no developer. Would it be possible to do a software with exactly that math for burstcoin as a decentral solution and feature of burstcoin ?

If not perhaps it would be possible to do some crossover with cointracking.info. They already have all prices for burst in their databases, it should be possible to read the transactions over the blockchain for a specfic burst adress and then automatically do the math.

And if this software would cost some money or is using a small fee it would be ok. Personally i think this feature can be a key changer.

Of course you can say then the shop owner should use contracking.info. But it has to be simple as hell and automatic and cointracking is not that simple and there is a lot of work for the shop owner.

So let me know your opinion:

1. Good idea ? I think so :)
2. Can it be done from a developer view as a build in feature of burstcoin ? Dedicated Software ?

Personally i cannot write code or something like that but I know my personal disadvantage of real world using cryptocoins. It's the f... math (for me). Everytime i am using cryptocoins i have to do all the creepy math. When buying or selling in FIAT I have nothing to do. I know the FIAT income and know the outcome and here we are. On cryptocoins i have to search for price at income and outcome..... . So i think for all other people its the same creepy thing so why should they use cryptocoins.

It would be nice to know how DASH is solving that math problem cause they want to be a coin for everyday use. I think nobody wants to make that complicated math every day.

@haitch

1. both PoC1 to PoC2 convertes are using 4,5 GB RAM for each instance, i think you are right that its all it need to do the conversion.

2. Is there any Plotchecker for Linux ? I can't find it right now. (But the plots are mining fine i created them with dcct plotter and then optimizing them after plotting. The filesize is high 9 TB, perhaps its a bit to high for converting tool writen in .pl ?)

3. Rust backtrack: Ok i only disabled the miner for the HDD that gets the PoC2 file because i thought it would be ok to mine with the origin HDD during transformation to another HDD.

So what i am doing now:

Actually i have disabled mining all HDD that are on PoC2 conversion the origin HDD and the new output HDD.
I am using the converter written in rust because the pl converter throws the error with the expected x bytes.
I am trying to find another plot checker but CreepMiner can check the plots too and it says everything is fine.

If i got a solution i write a short HowTo for other Linux user.

@tinycoins

I am using CreepMiner 1.8.1 so it will be working with PoC1 and PoC2.

Converting doesn't work for me. And actually i am testing PoC2 plotting. It's a bit frustrating cause PoC2 plotting with asynchronous writing doesn't work too.

I am not on panic but sometimes it would be nice to have smooth solution without testing so much.

So after testing i can say the asynchronous modus doesn't work on my Linux (Mintlinux), sometimes i got some freezing. But The normal one runs fine without asynchronous writing.

So Plotting isn't so much slower for me but it needs much more electricity and CPU Power but its ok now.

@tinycoins

I got an error on poc1topoc2 too, like you.

My error message is now:

thread 'main' panicked at 'called Result::unwrap() on an Err value: Error { repr: Os { code: 5, message: "Input/output error" } }', src/libcore/result.rs:916:5
note: Run with RUST_BACKTRACE=1 for a backtrace

Cause of lack of information for the converters both Linux converters are not working and I don't know what to to.

It seems that all Linux user have to replot everything with PoC2. Freaking out !!!!!!!!!! :(

Don't know why there is no more support for Linux Converter. Has someone advice or knowing what to do ?

I am testing on and tell here my solving if I get some

And why is there no other Linux user reporting on PoC2 Converting. There should be thousands of Linux users who want to use PoC2 ? Perhaps tinycoins and ZapbuzZ are the two of three with me. So in the whole Burstcoin space there are 3 Linux users. Perhaps we are the most stupid Linux user and all others can code their own solution :)

Hi,

i was thinking the same actually i am testing the other PoC1 to PoC2 converter written in Rust.

I am using the command:

./poc1to2 here the folder and name of the plotfile -o some_directory

f.e. : ./poc1to2 /mnt/HDD1/10282355196851764065_123456789_10000_10000 -o /mnt/HDD2

In this example the PoC1 file "10282355196851764065_123456789_10000_10000" on HDD 1 is converted to a PoC2 file on HDD2.

With this converter it seems to be working with Linux. I realy don't want to plot again. The last time it needed a lot of time and cpu power for plotting.

Here is the Link for the converter: https://github.com/PoC-Consortium/Utilities.git

The Link for install instructions: https://github.com/PoC-Consortium/Utilities/tree/master/poc1to2.rust

I can everyone give the tip to use Linux. Its fast secure and stable without Microsoft spying you. But Microsoft did buy github :(